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BroodingEvil · Apr 20, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Last time I checked, while I'm knocked down, I can't ass scoot out of the meteor shower. And i can only have so many spells on my warrior, i have to survive and cure myself of all these things and do damage.

Squishy ftw · Apr 20, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

Last time I checked, while I'm knocked down, I can't ass scoot out of the meteor shower. And i can only have so many spells on my warrior, i have to survive and cure myself of all these things and do damage.

Let monks worry about that. As a warrior, you blow shit up.

angmar_nite · Apr 20, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Cure yourself with spells on warriors??? And it takes 5 seconds to cast. You should get hit once by meteor shower tops and that's IF the glyph of Sac it. And one hit of average damage plus knockdown isn't with 25 energy and exhaustion.

Stormlord Alex · Apr 20, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

Last time I checked, while I'm knocked down, I can't ass scoot out of the meteor shower.

A good player will be out of MS before he gets KD'd the first time.

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And i can only have so many spells on my warrior, i have to survive and cure myself of all these things and do damage.

Warriors shouldn't use spells. There's these things called Monks for all the healing stuff. Use them. They're good.

angmar_nite · Apr 20, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Well... an average pve warrior without pve skills could get away with a conjure. But that's the most.

RPGmaniac · Apr 20, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

Last time I checked, while I'm knocked down, I can't ass scoot out of the meteor shower. And i can only have so many spells on my warrior, i have to survive and cure myself of all these things and do damage.

Try moving when you get up. It can do wonders. You also have monks who not only heal a lot better than a warrior ever could, but can also remove that pesky Mark of Rodgort you seem to be having trouble with.

Darkobra · Apr 20, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

Last time I checked, while I'm knocked down, I can't ass scoot out of the meteor shower. And i can only have so many spells on my warrior, i have to survive and cure myself of all these things and do damage.

You use spells on your warrior?

And coming from a pure elementalist, it takes 3 seconds for the first strike from the meteor shower to hit. It does not take a total of 3 seconds for even a crippled warrior to move out of it if they're targeted.

BroodingEvil · Apr 20, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

We're talking about warrior versus elementalist. And if I'm attacking the elementalist I have to be fairly close, and if he casts meteor shower or any other AOE when I'm attacking him as any person with half a brain would do, I'll have to fight through it or run away and do nothing.

Stormlord Alex · Apr 20, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

We're talking about warrior versus elementalist. And if I'm attacking the elementalist I have to be fairly close, and if he casts meteor shower or any other AOE when I'm attacking him as any person with half a brain would do, I'll have to fight through it or run away and do nothing.

Or call for Spirit Bond from your monk or a DShot from your ranger. Guild Wars is a team game, you know.

Sir Tidus · Apr 20, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Mending is overpowered because it's used alot.

Do I get a cookie?

How do you know that mending is used a lot? Why would anyone use mending other than for 55 Monk and certain running builds?

Darkobra · Apr 20, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

We're talking about warrior versus elementalist. And if I'm attacking the elementalist I have to be fairly close, and if he casts meteor shower or any other AOE when I'm attacking him as any person with half a brain would do, I'll have to fight through it or run away and do nothing.

In that scenario, use the other half of your brain and run out of it. That way, he'd have wasted 18 energy, 5 seconds, got himself exhaustion and you'd not take around 200 damage.

angmar_nite · Apr 20, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Go to RA Tidus. Or your own original posts. Or the ideas of most wars or monks that i've talked to that are new to the game or bad at the game.

FlamingMetroid · Apr 20, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

How do you know that mending is used a lot?

Go to RA, the depression may kill you though

milkflopance · Apr 20, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

if he casts meteor shower or any other AOE when I'm attacking him as any person with half a brain would do, I'll have to fight through it or run away and do nothing.

No, any person with half a brain would not be using meteor shower in pvp.

Also, what are you doing away from your team?

HawkofStorms · Apr 20, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Fire magic also has NO utility. It is all offensive. Compare it to the other elements. Air does less damage but has blind. Water does less damage but has snares. Earth does less damage but has defensive buffs.
Fire has.... burning.

And yes, you can walk out of meteor shower. Unless of course you are snared or using flail/dyolk signet (which are big no-nos in PvP).

Stormlord Alex · Apr 20, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by milkflopance

No, any person with half a brain would not be using meteor shower in pvp.

[iQ] disagree with you

Well, asides from that one time, yeeah - MS is utter shit for PvP.

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Unless of course you are snared or using flail/dyolk signet (which are big no-nos in PvP).

Just playing devil's advocate for the lulz, but Hammer bars often run with Flail.

but a hammer guy would have the ele on his ass and therefore wouldn't care about his spells

Sir Tidus · Apr 20, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

Go to RA Tidus. Or your own original posts. Or the ideas of most wars or monks that i've talked to that are new to the game or bad at the game.

Lol, I have never once thought that mending was good. Though, at one time, I did think that healing breeze was good.

BroodingEvil · Apr 20, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I'm done, I was talking about Warrior versus elementalist and you keep bringing up a team. I'm saying that 1v1 Warrior Versus Fire elementalist, Fire tends to win. You can ramble on about teams all you want.

Darkobra · Apr 20, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Well they would win, if the enemy was stupid enough to stand for the full 9 seconds in a meteor shower.

Mystica · Apr 20, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by BroodingEvil

Stormlord Alex, have you ever been in a meteor shower? Am I bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage?

Would it be impolite to answer the second question with a yes?

3 seconds...that's a lot of time in PvP (exclude AB).

The funny thing is that all PvE players know the hydra animantion for a meteor after farming around Augury for months/years. But you do not bother to look at an elementalist casting a 5 seconds spell? 5 SECONDS! You do not even have to realize it the first moment but an ele with his/her hands up for 5 seconds is not using the "Go Team" emote. And ever noticed the ground animation before a Meteor Shower strikes? Ever thought about not staying there looking for a mole that could cause all the dust? Plenty of time to interrupt it and plenty of time to move out of the affected area before or after the first Meteor striks. Same goes for most of the Fire magic AoE spells. I'd really like to know where some people pay attention while playing. Are you looking on your skillbar for skills to recharge? Watch the animations or move.

The only reasons people use Fire in AB (other then some of the horrible arguments mentioned in this thread) are to kill minions cause their reaction to AoE damage is only slightly better then the average human or to nuke shrines.

Other than that, every human player with enough health to survive one meteor that manages to get killed in a Shower without a bodyblock or extreme snares (water 90% go go go) needs to be kicked immediatly.

And since when does water suck? 90% speed reduction and blindness in form of hexes? Awesome! Best part is that most people in PvP do not even call them for others to remove so you have a good chance that your hex lasts the full duration other then "BACKFIRE ON 6 BACKFIRE ON 6 OMG REMOVE FFS I CANT CAST ANYMORE".

To sum this up...yes...you are bad for being knocked down every three seconds and subsequently hammered with damage. No offense though. You might find one or two helpful ideas in my post to do better next time.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#41
BroodingEvil Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2008	Last time I checked, while I'm knocked down, I can't ass scoot out of the meteor shower. And i can only have so many spells on my warrior, i have to survive and cure myself of all these things and do damage.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22	#43
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	Cure yourself with spells on warriors??? And it takes 5 seconds to cast. You should get hit once by meteor shower tops and that's IF the glyph of Sac it. And one hit of average damage plus knockdown isn't with 25 energy and exhaustion.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#45
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	Well... an average pve warrior without pve skills could get away with a conjure. But that's the most.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30	#48
BroodingEvil Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2008	We're talking about warrior versus elementalist. And if I'm attacking the elementalist I have to be fairly close, and if he casts meteor shower or any other AOE when I'm attacking him as any person with half a brain would do, I'll have to fight through it or run away and do nothing.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34	#52
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	Go to RA Tidus. Or your own original posts. Or the ideas of most wars or monks that i've talked to that are new to the game or bad at the game.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#55
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Fire magic also has NO utility. It is all offensive. Compare it to the other elements. Air does less damage but has blind. Water does less damage but has snares. Earth does less damage but has defensive buffs. Fire has.... burning. And yes, you can walk out of meteor shower. Unless of course you are snared or using flail/dyolk signet (which are big no-nos in PvP).

Apr 20, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#58
BroodingEvil Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2008	I'm done, I was talking about Warrior versus elementalist and you keep bringing up a team. I'm saying that 1v1 Warrior Versus Fire elementalist, Fire tends to win. You can ramble on about teams all you want.

Apr 20, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#59
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Well they would win, if the enemy was stupid enough to stand for the full 9 seconds in a meteor shower.